Within the heart and mind of ultimate truth

If personal freedom is what you desire to experience for yourself, the way to experience that is to recognize it as soon as you start to solidify into identifying yourself as a personality and then immediately look at that personality objectively and see that it is separate from you: “your feeling is that,” “you’re identified as that” and then you look at that and see it as a “something” that is somewhat less than the truth of you and so as you look at that something and then realize that it is not you: it dissolves and fades away. 

Since you have identified yourself as “you,” as this “feeling that you recognize as being definitive and defining of you: creating you as a finite presence here,” Feel It… Yes, thats me and as you look and feel: you see that it shifts and changes, as soon as you put your consciousness on it objectively with an open awareness.

So what do you do when you know that the truth of you changes as soon as you become consciously aware of what it is you perceive your truth to be? Perceive your truth exactly as you believe it is, observe it with your every sense and then let it go as you observe it being the pretense that it really is and notice that it frees you into something so much more than that. 

For myself I am letting go of who I have been talking to you as: realizing that this identity is just one more in a long line of pretenses and Identities that I have taken on and said: ”this is me.” It was only just a workable idea of what it is to be human here: “Pretending to be who we present ourselves to others as being.” 

Is there a time where a human such as yourself could experience a whole new state of being? One that is expansive and expanded from what you have been experiencing and encompassing all that that has been and yet opening your mind to infinite possibilities and actualities and beginning to know those as your own.

What happens to your idea of self when “you” experience infinite realities and know them as your own? Well, there has to be some kind of shift take place, my question is: can you find out how to make it a wonderful one? One that we would all celebrate, one that we would all admire? Can you shift yourself in such away that “we would all like to be you?” 

Well, I will have to take a look at that myself. I certainly don’t want to promote that to anybody, but at the same time I can’t help but say that I choose it for myself anyway, just for my own benefit and experience: to know what it is to know what it is to be transcendent in your presence here. Wouldn’t we all like to know what that is for ourselves as out own experience of life and reality and our own identity within that and beyond that? 

Why not know an identity of yourself that knows what it is to know the infinite and to be present, aware and knowing as a consciousness that knows everything everywhere: within and without all realities, dimensions and universes? I think that it would be great to know ourselves from that level of freedom. What would it be like to have that level of consciousness inhabiting our body as us? 

Well, it seem reasonable that if you want to know your ultimate possibilities, you have to look for them within the heart and mind of ultimate truth and infinite love, compassion and joy for all thing being exactly what they are and yet at the same time, being that catalyst, that touchstone, that spark that inspires each of us here to awaken into our opening into the reality of heaven on earth here ourselves and knowing ourselves therein as that. That Identity that knows what it is to know self divinely.  

Take a look at that within yourself. Is there not enough space within yourself to know yourself divinely within any space within you? Is there not space within you already within you where the divine is well known, willing to be known and shone as yours? I think that we will take a break and see if we have somebody coming to talk with us.

You don't need to label the divine.

That which has defined you is your darkness, your judgement of and condemnation of others which has resulted in a reality of self condemnation for you.

Awaken within your condemnation of self and you will have realized a divine truth: you are free when you are a blessing to self and others. Self first and then sharing your divine freedom for the use and benefit of another who wishes the same for himself.

If you have any burdens, realize that you have them, that you don't want them and that whatsoever is divine will take them from you through your remembrance and realization of the divine self and your open connection with them. Praise Jesus and his success in having a heavenly host of divine beings for each of our teaching and comfort while we still persist in maintaining our fallen state of consciousness, praise Buddha.

Do not to try to "vet" the divine from an admitted condition of being less than the divine yourself, because you can't do it or understand it and it isn't necessary because if you simply give yourself to unconditional love, then it will come through what ever it is you are open to and connected with.

Observe unconditional love flowing to you from your connections in life, all of them.

It works if you are open to it to give yourself to Christ, (if the divine Christ is what you are really giving yourself to.) It cant just be the idea of it, you actually have to receive Christ within the temple of your body, mind, heart and soul. It's not so obvious to a Christian who believes but does not know or knows and yet does not receive the divine Christ with himself, is that anyone as equally divine as Christ (as all would be if they were as Christ wished for for them) would be as effective as Christ to surrender to if their love is as infinite and unconditional as Christ's, saving you in the light of their truth and being in absolute support of your light and truth being known to you. Praise the Christ-ed you: the rebirth of divinity on earth.

When your way is beyond your understanding, give your direction of it it to that which understands divinely absolutely.

If you give yourself to Christ as a way to save yourself, you have to do it until you are as Christ, otherwise he didn't actually take you as his own did he? I'm not saying he can't, I'm just saying that I have never met anyone who had giving themselves so completely to Christ that I could know Christ completely in them. If you can do so, it will work! If not, find your way, do what works for you and if nothing does work for you in awakening into divine knowing: then quit looking for your guidance from a consciousness born of this reality and find one existing in divine freedom instead. 

You don't need to label the divine, you have only the need to experience it acting upon, through and then as you.

Jesus knew his divinity by seeing it in everything else that he experienced

Whatever you have faith in that is observably divine, 

Whatever you can feel good about giving your burdens to that is willing and able to take them, to unburden you from the confusions that you are operating under, Whatever it is that saves you from yourself: from the self imposed reality as it is for you. 

Whatever it is that will move you gracefully, joyfully and lovingly, 

Whatever it is that can do that for you: “God bless you, do that.”

Bless God wherever you see God. 

Thank God for all that is glorious, 

for all that is normal and mundane and 

for all that is corrupt and ugly. 

Thank God for that, thank god for that. 

Thank God for that and you will awaken in that and stir the slumber of a God who has gone unconscious of self and has chosen to exist as a degraded thing. So, God bless God for that, because since we know that God is “the whole” and the causal aspect of life as it is here and that god is infinitely able to do as God wishes, then thank God that God is behind all that is and present within all:

within the horror, 

within the ugliness, 

within the despair, 

within the rage and 

within the darkness of all of us. 

Thank God, that God is there for you in the densest, ugliest and most uncomfortable state that you find yourself in. Thank God, because God is there with you. Thank God, because God is there as you, not observably so of course even in your own eyes. But in the eyes of God, God knows the truth of you. God knows the truth of you, do you? Do you? 

Are you going to argue for a point of view that is in opposition to another one? If you’re going down that road then you are going to find your way limited by an oppositional belief system. One that condemns you to loss, because that’s what you condemn your enemy to with your mind, with your intention, with your behavior. You wish your enemies failure. Try wishing for their success instead. Wish for their success in finding the truth within themselves. 

Within your own heart lies the truth that can lighten and enlighten all of humanity and will. 

Surrender to God in you, 

within yourself, 

within all that you perceive yourself to be. 

Willingly surrender all that you are to God in this moment and allow God to take all that suppresses you, that compresses you, that condemns you, that agrees with the premise that you should be disabled here, that you should be unaware and unconscious, ineffective and opposed in almost every way. 

Suppose for a moment that God can be observed in you, well, can it? Can I see God in me? Can I see God in you? 

When we can see God in each other: then and there we are free and not until.

When you condemn another in their chosen belief system: then you my brother have not realized the truth of your own, for if you knew the truth for that which you give your reverence to, then the truth of all that that is would be known by You and as You as well, for when God’s truth is known... is shone to you and you open and embrace all that that is, then you will have had to realize the infinite potential of God within yourself. 

“To thine own self be true, to the God within you.” 

May you celebrate your own awakening of God as you. 

Hi Donna,

Do you want to talk or shall I talk to myself?

Donna: talk to yourself. I’m talked out for the day. 

One other option would be for you to relax a little bit.

Donna: I am relaxed.

With me.

Donna: I am relaxed with you.

You know what I do when I smoke: I talk about consciousness and how we can experience ourselves as something more magnificent than what we are experiencing  ourselves as in this moment. OK?

Donna: Yes. 

That Joy that you have in witnessing Christ and what that does for you: embrace that and even more than that, embrace Christ within you.

Donna: I do every day, all day.

OK, can you feel that merger and that union within yourself?

Donna: of course, If I didn’t I wouldn’t be reminded from the moment I wake up, why I woke up and what my job is for the day and who it is that I need to pray for and never forget it and keep doing it all day until something happens because he is with us and we know that he is there.

And that works for you?

And he knows that we are with him, so he is with us. If were not with him, he is not with us, you do know that?

Here’s what I know: I am happy for you and in what you have described and I am happy for myself for my own experiences, for my own experience of that which is beautiful and sublime and loving.

Donna: when I started praying this last week for him to acknowledge that work that is trying to be done in his honor, I said “please let it flow” please give us the right way so that we can function.

Yes.

Donna: Let it happen, please be with us so that we can be reminded why we are doing this.

Beautifully said, thank you. 

Donna: He understood that and if you paid attention you will know is about all to come forth. You calm right down when you know. When you know he’s with you and you know he is walking with you, you don’t have to worry about “oh my God, what is going to happen next week or the week after or the month after. You don’t have to worry, all that stupp will come magically drifting right on through the flow. Think about it, you already know.

Wouldn’t that be a wonderful experience? 

Donna: it is in his time.

It doesn’t matter who’s time it is in if the experience of that is…

Donna: you as a person have to realize that just because you asked for it today doesn’t mean that it will happen for you today. It may be a week, he may want you to go through something, he may want you to feel something.

But if at the same time He’s willing to be with you and to be in support of you in all of that, as long as you are living that as you r experience of your interaction with Christ: then your experiences don’t matter because you are supported in them in your own consciousness. 

Donna: and you know not to worry. If you are a true believer you don’t have to worry: it will happen as it is suppost to, when it is suppost to. He moves pretty quickly for me, for some reason. He moves quickly for me when I focus really hard on something I don’t have to wait too long for it. I have had a great year of him showing me who he is in moments that I was flat down.  

What was it that made you decide to go with Christianity over Judaism? 

Donna: I didn’t do that, I didn’t go for one over the other. I am both. Just like the jews for Jesus. I will show you a movement of Messianic Jews that believe that the only way to get to God is through Jesus, which is not the teaching of the old testament, but other things are coming out so there is a big movement. Jesus is Jewish, he was the most kind and loving Jew that there ever was: he fought for the people. The old testament is filed with the stories of Jesus and what he did. 

The new testament is.

Donna: no it is the old testament, the new testament is just the resurrection and then on. 

The new testament is the life of Christ and the Old Testament is the prediction of the life of Christ. 

Donna: all the stories of the life of Jesus is in the Old testament too. Yes, they are. 

Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. 

Donna: the new testament is from the resurrection. When they said.

From his birth.

Donna:from when Jesus came back after he died on the cross. Thats the point where the Jews don’t believe it. That is the part where they stop. They believe everything in the old testament, they believe nothing in the new Testament, because their thing is that if everybody didn’t see the resurrection of Jesus coming back to life, then it wasn’t a miracle and it didn’t happen. Thats what they believe.

When you witness to somebody what the truth is that you experience, to those who receive it and it changes their lives, how does that  happen? How are you able to communicate it in such a way that they receive it openly and actually get the benefit that you wish for for them? 

Donna: I think that for every one of them it is different. There are different things that happen at different times. Charles went to Church with me and he was very religious when he was young, he just lost his way with drugs and drinking. I just told him: Charles you need to go to church with me and he did.

We have all done those things.

Donna: I’m not saying we haven’t done them, but he was in the middle of a crisis, we all have different illnesses and sicknesses.

 Thats for sure. 

Donna: My pastor used to say: “my church is the hospital this is where sick people come to get well”

Thats nice. My experience of church has been more in a manner of where I became a skeptic because it seemed to be only pretenses, not actual experiences of love and beauty and spirit.

Donna: you were in the wrong one. When you get in the right one you feel it immediately when you get in there it is just magic.

People who truly want to open up and experience the divine acting on them and through them and with them.

Donna: they will find the way.

You should be able to find that anywhere.

Donna; you can.

Yourself, within yourself and by yourself. 

Donna: you can, but you never have the total experience.

Why not?

Donna: I don’t think that you can have the total experience all by yourself. It grows in the learning and experiencing a different class of people.

Of course you’re going to be interacting there, but Christ didn’t become his fullness through the teachings of the rabbis he was listening to. He did it with his own communion with God.

Donna: and he had his own church. 

Not really, he had twelve disciples.  

Donna: he had his own church too, I was in it. I was in his church in Jerusalem standing in the first church he preached in. I know that to be a fact because I stood there. 

Your leading away from what my intention was for you.

Donna: what was your intention?

My intention for you was for us not to talk about ideas with each other.

Donna: thats not an idea, thats a fact. 

Its information and intended to educate me and to help me understand something that seems more of an academic truth in looking at it than the experience of the divine itself in this moment. What I am asking you is: to the degree that you have felt Christ being a blessing to you, could you put your awareness on that right now and tell me what that feels like for you? What does the love of Christ as you open to receive it, what does that do for you?

Donna: I think it is a peacefulness where you know that no matter what you face, there isn’t anything that you cannot deal with, with grace and honor and that you have a compassionate heart through the lessons of what ever path he is taking you down.

Feel that experience right now and tell me what the feeling  of it is.

Donna: it is peace, I don’t know how to explain it. 

As it moves through you, you relax and you’re at ease?

Donna: and calm, yes. 

Well, I would love that.

Donna: and if you get into a situation that might not be so wonderful and you find yourself in a state of turmoil.

I’m there what do I do?

Donna: you learn real quickly how to reduce that almost immediately and just take a breath and then the better parts come. Remove’s the nasty things and the outside forces that come in through your life. Which is evil and people and the things that they say and do and you just know, that just like him in my mind when these things happen to me, I always think about the days before they put him on the cross: how they spit on him, how they lied about him, how they kicked him and how they tried to destroy him.

Tell me what your experience of Christ is,now in this moment.

Donna: I don’t have an experience right now in this moment.

Can you if you ask him to? 

Donna: of course if I did.

Would you be willing to open and experience Christ and describe it to me so I can understand your experience as you are experiencing it? If I can observe the divine Christ communing with you in this moment, then I can begin to understand exactly what that is and know what hat can do for me.

Donna: I usually do it with music.  If I’m not asking for something, or I’m not thanking him for something and I’m just thinking about him, then I do it through music and I sing and get my feeling through song.

What about just feeling his presence within you right now and telling me what that feels like.

Donna, I already did, it is peace and calm and a knowing that everything is OK and will be OK. 

So that peace and calm is what you are experiencing within yourself right now?

Donna: its what I have all of the time. 

OK

Unless there is a force coming at me and then I have to deal with it, but it doesn’t last long.

So you can live in the moment, you can deal with effectively as it comes at you and at the same time your always connected to Christ and knowing that everything’s OK? Donna: Yes.

Well, thats a beautiful thing.

Donna: I think that it takes time because you’re learning  and learning and learning and you never stop learning.

And you don’t think that there is any other way for somebody who is born and raised in another faith and has been observant of and in reverence of God as he has been taught and seen in his family and is as true as he can be to the truth that he knows or believes. Lets assume that they are that true to within themselves in regards to the love of God…

Donna: well they say there are more paths to him than one, so I think that there are more paths to him than one. 

Yes, I just wanted and openness within you to acknowledge the fact that God can move as God wishes within each of our lives. 

Donna: of course.

And,regardless of our knowledge of Christ, if one does not know that Christ exists, then God has to be able to move…

Donna: through what ever else.

Through what ever it is that they are open to that they are willing to recognize as the unconditional love of a divine presence, without regard to putting a name on it and saying who it is and the living being: the man that is lost, fallen and confused, can by any name, call upon the divine and receive communion with God and awaken to a remembrance of his truth to the point that he doesn’t have to live here as a corrupt, disappointed or unhappy person.

Donna: Umhmm

If we open to God as what we are, where we are, who we are and do it in this moment then there is no reason why God would refuse you.

Donna: yes.

So anyone can do it at any time.

Donna: yes.

And God would respond to the degree that they are open to receiving him. 

Donna: yes.

I’m just suggesting that in your celebration and in the effectiveness of your witnessing the Christ within you as that has been for you: allow for God to move for everyone.

Donna:  of course.

In what ever way.

Donna: in what ever way. We are not allowed to judge.

Thank God, please don’t. I was watching that Dexter series on Netflix over the last year. 

Donna: I don’t know what that is.

He is a serial murderer and has a serial murderer girl friend.

Donna:  is it fake the whole thing?

Yes.

Donna:  our pastor would never allow us to watch something like that.

I want to address that in a minute.

Donna: he would say that would be the work of the devil, the movie people.

Wait on that for a moment and let me tell you what his girl friend said and that was: “trust and believe in somebody that is searching for the truth, but doubt all those who say that they have found it.” It is in the searching for truth that one finds it, not in the description of it, not in the retelling of it. It is the experience of searching for the truth of God where one finds their union with God and it is that union that transforms, not the description of the union in talking about it to someone else. So how, without words can we allow that which we have experienced as the divine working within us, how do we share that with someone else so that they can have the same experience? It has to be experientially, because words are only descriptions of things and not the things themselves. For a person to know God…

Donna:  why do you have to pay attention to anything that she said?

Who said?

Donna: Whoever you were quoting out of that show that you watched, because that was just made up nonsense. You don’t have to not use words, you can use words and the reason that we have them is because we are supposed to use them, we are supposed to witness, that is our job. It is, so why would you not use them?

Here’s why…

Donna: Why? Why do you wan’t to make it complicated when it’s not? 

It’s not complicated, you’re making it complicated with words. What I’m trying to ...

Donna: no.

Yes, you are. We have words and we can use them and we cansay wonderful things and horrible things with them.

Donna: yes.

And we can describe every experience that it is possible to experience on Earth, but, we can’t actually experience it when we are communicating the ideal of something. We actually have to open to the experience of it and live as that experience in order to be able to share it effectively with others. 

Donna: Well, for sure. It’s a fact.

And all I’m asking you for is…

Donna: you do use your words.

Of course, but I’m only concerned with you and I right now in this moment and I don’t want to battle about ideas, I want to explore possibilities. 

Donna: it’s not an idea.

I want to explore possibilities, are you willing to? 

Donna: I would have to show somebody something…

No

Donna: without using words?

No, its just me and you. Its only me and you talking right now.

Donna: What is it that you are asking for me to do because we are using our words right now? If we are not going to use words, what are we talking about? 

I want you to listen to me as I say my words then. 

Donna: I did listen.

Right now. 

Donna: I am listening to you right now. I’m sitting right here. I’m hearing every word you say. So how am I not listening to your words? 

You just keep talking.

Donna: Oh so you want to have a one way conversation? You want to be like Neal was the other night? 

We’re…

Donna: You want to be like him and have his ideas.

Your saying all the words. 

Vi think your saying plenty of them too. I have to write David a letter because it is getting late, it is 11:40

OK. It is getting late. Thanks. 

Donna: its late.

Ha ha. Wow, wow. So much good and wonderful and so much density combined with that. What are we to do? How do we share the divine with another? One who is so stuck in stories that they can’t open to sharing their experience of a divine Christ with someone who is asking for it. They want to describe the wonders in words, but not to show Gods love for them, moving through them as Christ consciousness opening them to being a living expression of Christ consciousness. 

What would occur to you if you allowed that for yourself? How would your body react to your opening to that within you? 

There would certainly be a dramatic transformation and wouldn’t it be interesting if you allowed that for yourself? 

Allow yourself to be as Christ would wish for you right now. God wishes for you all that he is and can ever be. He wishes the same for you as he experiences himself/herself to be and better if that is possible and of course that is possible: its all expanding infinitely, which means that it just keeps getting better and better for God, which means that you get better to because you are also God and you get better to the degree that you experience God within yourself. 

And, so yes I do say a lot of words, but I also focus on the experience of that which is behind those words and open to “that” being that which brings freedom to me, brings awareness to me and changes this body from being a prison into being a temple: from misery into joy and peace and grace and love. 

Open and allow the divine to be you and, look: here I am denying it within myself even as I say the words that could be creating a wonder within myself, I condemn myself to failure in manifesting the divine in me. What do you choose for yourself? Because if you choose to have God be free in you and for you to be a wholly, holy, wholesome temple of that which loves unconditionally, of that which is glorious beyond description: you the living vessel of the mind of God. Who could ask for anything more? Who should settle for anything less? No one. For in that are we all set free. For in that is humanity remembered as a glorious thing by all who perceive humanity to be themselves, others and otherwise different from them. 

If you conceive God within yourself, then the blessing of God is flowing to me from you and for me, that is something I welcome. Thank you God, for awakening within you. Thank you God for awakening as you, as this, as us, as our environment and even as me. Thank you God, yes, you are free to be your glorious truth within the body that clearly doesn’t deserve you from any judgmental point of view, but from the point of view of whole truth, of a timeless love that embraces all to experience the Glory of God: from there is where I open to receive all that is within the me that I know as myself. 

Open to the truth of God being known within yourself, by yourself, for yourself, as yourself and for others and as others for themselves and for you. Allow God to be true within each of us. What a wondrous thing that is isn’t it? Allow yourself to awaken and share a divine reality that we are experiencing in this moment. Hmm, Mmm. Well, there is certainly a transition that has to occur here within me for all of what I have described to be true within this moment, but moment by moment: I allow that to be more true. So at what point do I actually experience my reality as the divine? As heaven on Earth? When I allow it all to be true, when I allow it all to be God and when I allow all that can be experienced here by me to be God: then God can be true in me, because it is true in everything else.

Jesus knew his divinity by seeing it in everything else that he experienced and so did every other being that ever experienced itself divinely. It experienced the glories of heaven on earth, the redemption of their consciousness to encompass all that is divine and all that is polarized or lets say this: experienced all polarity divinely. Saw it divinely, knew it divinely, interacted with it divinely and received it divinely with the recognition of the truth of God moving as what ever it was that seemed so ungodly. When you can see God in that which you detest, in that which you hate, in that which everyone would surely condemn, when you can see God within that: then God is free in you and you are free to know the divine as yourself. Isn’t that what we should really be looking for: to know the divine within ourselves and all that would mean? When we take all the labels off of it, when we let all of the stories fall away, when we simply choose to open and drink of the divine nectar of the Gods and know ourselves as one of them thereby: its quite a transition to make isn’t it? But, isn’t it worth opening into that experience so that one can transition, transform, transcend all that we have been, be redeemed and reborn, reawakened and remembered as God, as Christ, as Jesus would want us to be: to be the glory of Christ ourselves? He within us, divinely free, divinely glorious, hmm. 

Ahh, how may we know the divine within ourselves in this moment? The truth is in your nose. The knowing of God is known by the nosy who are focused there on God.

Breathe God within yourself, ahh, breathe God within yourself: give freedom to God to move within you as you do your blood and oxygen. Allow God to be moving through you as that, as that which nourishes you, holds you, cleanses you. Allow God to be within you as that. Infinitely there, loving and supportive of you, blessing you in every cell.  

Apparently I have nothing more to say, so to sum this up: when you are stopped and struggling and know that you are confused; stop thinking about anything and put your awareness on God. Willingly experience God, in your surroundings, in this second, in this moment. Its the only one you have , its the only place where freedom can be experienced. It can’t be experienced in the past or in the future unless it’s known by you in the present. So, allow yourself to know divine freedom within yourself, not momentarily, but in this moment. Its the only one you have. Allow the divine within you.  

Inhuman

I find my freedom,
not in the resolution of my problems,
but in the dissolution of myself.

Rising from the ashes of me,
I find myself revealed,
in the light of my truth.

The truth that saves me,
is the one that destroys,
the one that I had been.

Being human,
is somehow inhuman,
without the light of truth,
that burns off our lies of self.

Selfless,
we find the unconditional love,
that formed us,
and informs us of our truth.

In a remembrance of,
the whole, holy, wholesome,
knowing of self.

That fills the hole in our heart,
with an everlasting love of all,
which restores our eternal nature,
to our individual self.